Schwab Network: Commercial Real Estate 'Head Fake' Amid Challenges
Greg Friedman sits down with Schwab Network to talk about the outlook for CRE in 2025
"Extend and Pretend"—Just as Hamlet famously questioned, "To be or not to be," we are also on the brink of a crucial revelation. Are we facing a seismic shift with sustained higher interest rates, a largely overlooked issue? How will this shift affect commercial real estate and other asset classes in both the short and long term? Are the public and private sectors ready for what appears to be the inevitable? Today, we face more questions than answers, and indecision is no longer viable in a higher interest rate environment.
Unlike in the past few downturns, such as COVID, the Global Financial Crisis and the dotcom bust, the Fed significantly reduced interest rates, enabling owners of commercial real estate and lenders to easily engage in "Extend and Pretend," even when cash flows were negative or razor-thin, thanks to the exceptionally low interest costs.
Today, we are in a commercial real estate recession showing no signs of abating. The economy boasts considerable strength, driven by a strong job market, and record liquidity is on the sidelines. I do not see the necessary catalysts to revert interest rates to levels seen in previous cycles. Therefore, I don't see “Extend and Pretend” to be an effective strategy and would prepare for more bankruptcies, foreclosures and forced sales as reality sets in that we are in a new rate paradigm or maybe just a return to normalcy that, unfortunately, will be destructive to values, especially to the lower cap rate assets. Ultimately, amidst any market disruption, there will be pivotal opportunities for those with the decisiveness and the liquidity to seize them at the right moment.
This commentary originally appeared on Greg Friedman's LinkedIn page on May 1, 2024, in response to a Wall Street Journal article titled: Even If the Fed Cuts, the Days of ultralow Rates are Over.
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Peachtree CEO Greg Friedman recently shared insights on the market with Madison Mills of the Yahoo Finance show Catalysts.
Yahoo – Catalysts - The commercial real estate market (CRE) has struggled amid a prolonged high-interest-rate environment, but hotels have continued to outperform as demand surpasses supply. Peachtree Group CEO Greg Friedman joined Catalysts to discuss the market outlook.
Friedman explained that the pandemic "muted" new supply growth, and as demand has picked up with limited new construction, he believes the hotel industry is benefiting from supply being constrained. He points out supply in the hotel sector is growing at a 40% reduction, while demand remains resilient.
Friedman notes that "from an investment perspective," hotel assets trade at higher cap rates. With rates expected to remain elevated, Friedman states, "there's less negative leverage," making the sector increasingly attractive.
Regarding office spaces, Friedman sees potential for recovery. "I think we're heading towards a bottoming across the office sector," he said, pointing to rising vacant spaces being repurposed and transformed for new uses. "I think we're heading towards it being more investable," he added.
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Peachtree Group's Market Update w/ Greg Friedman & Mark Zandi
Mark Zandi, Chief Econmist at Moody's Analytics joined Greg Friedman, Managing Principal and CEO of Peachtree Group for a 4th Quarter Market Update.
As we move into 2025, Peachtree Group remains optimistic about the U.S. economy. While risks persist—from policy shifts to stretched markets—the underlying fundamentals are strong. This sentiment was echoed by our recent guest speaker, Mark Zandi, Chief Economist at Moody’s Analytics, who shared his insights on the economy’s resilience and the challenges ahead, particularly for commercial real estate.
Economic Highlights and Key Insights
Mark emphasized the exceptional performance of the U.S. economy, with GDP growth expected to range between 2.5% and 3%, driven by increased labor participation and productivity gains. The labor market remains strong, with unemployment hovering around 4%, and households—especially those in the top income tiers—benefit from strong asset values and low debt-service ratios. However, he noted the pressures on lower-income households, who are feeling the strain of inflation and high-interest debt. This contrast contributes to a gap between strong economic data and public sentiment.
Risks and Projections for 2025
He outlined several key risks that may shape the economic landscape in 2025:
- Tariffs and Immigration Policies: Anticipated increases in tariffs and stricter immigration rules could amplify inflation and disrupt labor markets, especially in industries like construction and agriculture.
- Asset Market Volatility: Stretched valuations and policy-driven fiscal deficits could heighten market instability.
- Interest Rate Outlook: The federal funds rate is projected to decline to 4% by early 2025, with a further reduction to 3% by 2026. Meanwhile, the 10-year Treasury yield, a key benchmark for CRE valuations, is expected to remain flat, between 4% and 4.5%.
Commercial Real Estate and Private Credit
Mark highlighted the explosive growth over the past decade on private credit, now standing at eight times its 2010 size. While recognizing the risks of this rapid expansion, he noted that stabilizing economic fundamentals is a significant mitigating factor.
He also addressed the current state of CRE valuations, acknowledging a significant correction since 2022. Asset prices are down 10–20% from their peaks, depending on asset type, but he expressed cautious optimism for future returns as valuations in many segments approach fair value. Challenges remain, however, as muted transaction volumes and uncertainty around intrinsic values make price discovery difficult in a higher interest rate environment. However, he concluded by emphasizing that CRE, having undergone a meaningful correction, is uniquely positioned for potentially stronger returns.